As the group made preparations to teleport, Lilith had Carmen bring their parents to the destination. She figured it would be best to get their inevitable meeting over with, and this way her grandfather would be guaranteed to be under the supervision of everyone.
Once the circle was drawn and everyone was inside, Lilith activated it, transporting them all to the living quarters.
“Hey.” Carmen said nonchalantly. “Lilith already told you, but I’m Carmen. Nice kind of meeting you all.”
Kirdin glanced at Lilith, confused. “You have a twin?”
Carmen rolled her eyes. “No. We’re the same person. Lilith already told you about this, remember?”
Kirdin furled his brow. “I thought that was like…a voice in your head.”
That too. Mae said. There are three of us.
“And we’re constantly sharing senses and whatever, so you don’t have to get me up to speed. Anyway, this is mom and dad. Mom and dad, this is grandma and grandpa.”
Kirdin snapped to attention, strutting over to Mike and looking him up and down. He sniffed disapprovingly, glaring at him. “I don’t see what’s so great about you. Break up with my daughter or I’ll snap your neck here and now.”
Lilith moved to intervene, but Tiamat grabbed her shoulder, shaking her head.
Mike maintained eye contact and spoke. “No. Regardless of what I feel, though, that isn’t something for you to decide. If she loves me and I love her, then you have no business telling us we can or can’t be together.”
Kirdin narrowed his eyes and looked at Jessica. “And you?”
She snorted. “Please. There’s no chance of that. Besides, that threat’s empty and you know it. Siph or Lilith would stop you before you could even try.”
Kirdin laughed uproariously. “You got me, well done. Both of you pass.” He turned serious again as he looked at the two of them. “This really won’t do, though. I can tell that neither of you have picked up any sort of eternal youth. If this keeps up, you’re just going to end up making my girl sad. Come on.” He grabbed each of them and started to drag them away, before stopping suddenly.
“Lilith? Where’s the training room?”
“Right behind us. There’ll be a teleporter that’ll take you straight to it.” Carmen answered.
“Much appreciated.” He said, turning around and dragging a bewildered Mike and Jessica into the teleporter.
Siph smiled warmly. “Dad’ll get them whipped into shape in no time. It’ll be hard, but I think it’s for the best. They need to be stronger, he needs to bond with them, it’s a win-win. Despite how he acts, he’s a remarkably good teacher. Still, I’m going to go make sure he’s not too harsh on them. I’m not sure he knows just how fragile humans can be.” She said, stepping into the teleporter with a wink.
Tiamat sighed. “That musclebrain never changes. You were going to show me around?”
So, they began to show her the place. Everyone else was out training, so they didn’t have to worry about interrupting everyone as they did their little house tour.
Which isn’t to say they weren’t interrupted. Around halfway through, Kali contacted Lilith mentally. Hey, can you come over to my place? I need you for a bit.
“I’ll keep showing her around, you go see what she needs.” Carmen said. “I’d like to talk with grandma a bit more anyway.”
Tiamat tilted her head. “What’s this all of a sudden?”
“Kali just called us in for something.” Carmen explained. “And, since there’s no real need for both of us to be in the same place, I figured I’d keep showing you around so you could get to know me better. Well, better than you already do, since a lot of what you know about Lilith applies to me too.”
“Oh, that’s fine. Make sure to come introduce her to me when you finish, though. I want to meet my granddaughter’s girlfriend.” Tiamat said, smiling.
“Right. Sorry about this, grandma, but it’s probably important.” Lilith apologized.
“Don’t be. You’ll still be right here, so I don’t mind at all.”
Carmen smirked. “See? Grandma gets it. Now shoo.”
Lilith sighed, but left for Kali’s house anyway. It was a little surprising to be called over there – recently Kali had been spending more time in Lilith’s dungeon than she had in her own home, so it was somewhat unusual that Kali specifically wanted to meet in her house.
Not that it really mattered, given the two might has well have been the same place with how closely they were connected.
“I’m here!” She called out, officially stepping out of her dungeon and into Kali’s house.
“Ara ara, you look so cute I could just eat you up.” Lilith was surprised as she felt her arm land between two soft and squishy things. She looked over to find that she was gripped by two gooey green hands connected to a tall woman made entirely out of the same slimy material. She noted, with some surprise, that she could see through her ever so slightly, like a frosted window.
The woman looked over to Kali, who was snickering on the bed. “Did I say that right?” She asked.
Kali sighed. “Yeah, you got it, but the effect’s ruined if you ask whether or not you did it.”
“I know.” The woman teased, sticking her tongue out. “Not fair if she’s the only one I get to poke fun at.”
“Yeah, yeah. Anyway, Lilith, this is my old administrator Amy. Amy, this is my first real Higher Being and, more importantly, my girlfriend, Lilith.”
“Nice to meet you!” Amy said, moving over to the front of Lilith and sticking out her hand. “I’m a slime but, like, the person kind.”
Lilith shook the proffered hand. “Nice to meet you.” She said, then glanced at Kali. “I’m not your first Higher Being, though? What about the Elder Gods?”
“Oh, those.” Kali waved her hand. “Those are more like AI than they are people. Don’t really count.”
Amy let go of Lilith’s hand and moved over to the couch, sitting down. “Don’t worry, I won’t stain the couch or anything.” She said, waving Lilith over. “Come talk with us. I was just about to help Kali lay out what’ll happen next, and you’re going to be part of that, so we figured you should know. That and I just wanted to meet you. So, come take a seat.”
Lilith sat down next to Kali, who immediately snuggled up to her.
“Alright, first things first, how much Worship are you making a day on average?” Amy asked, smiling.
“It’s only been a couple of days but around 1,000.”
“Not a lot, then.” Amy said, tapping her chin. “In that case, you’ll be better off building strength here for a while. I would have recommended that anyway, but we’ll just do it for longer. It’ll still be shorter than most people would take, since you already have a foundation and are catching up, but it’ll be a few years at least.”
“So, we need to talk strategy to do that. The key here is that people need conflict. Without conflict, people don’t have a motivation to get stronger. War is a pretty simple one, but the people who already know how to use magic don’t seem to be the type to start an internal conflict, at least not now, and you’ve rightly prevented conflict between them and the people who don’t know magic, so for them it’s got to be something else.”
“The people from Earth should be fine in this regard. There’s going to be territorial conflict for sure, and they’ll have their hands full just surviving, so you don’t need to worry about them. A popular choice to incentivize people to get stronger is to spend some Worship and make a demon lord system. A reincarnating individual that keeps some or most of its power between reincarnations and works to provide enough of a threat to make people band together and fight. As a bonus, they’re also usable as a combatant, so they’re a solid option.”
She looked at Lilith. “You’ve got a multiple personality thing going on, right? It’d probably be easiest to have the demon lord just be one of those. From what I understand you’re the world’s strongest right now anyway, and with this Kali won’t have to spend very much Worship. Just enough to give you the required abilities to be a demon lord and you’ll be set. It’d be way cheaper than making one from scratch.”
“Um…but…I don’t want to kill people.” Lilith protested weakly. “Don’t demon lords raze villages and that sort of thing?”
Amy’s expression softened. “I know it seems callous, but it’s for the best. If people don’t get stronger, you all won’t be able to get new planes, and if you don’t get new planes, people will run out of room and internal conflict is just going to get worse and worse. But, it’s not like you’ll be just killing defenseless people. An important part of being the demon lord is judging how much strength to use to give people a fighting chance.”
Kali squeezed her hand. “And if it’s you, we can be sure you won’t go totally out of control. I think I’ll be making one anyway, so it would be really comforting if it was you. I won’t force you, though. I know it’s a big ask.”
“Can I…have some time to think about this?”
“Of course. Take all the time you need.”
Amy nodded. “Right. It’s a big responsibility, so don’t feel pressured. You’ve already got a lot on your plate, so it’s understandable if you decide not to.”
She turned to Kali. “That being said, the next task is to start getting a team set up. A lot of people make the mistake of just throwing all their most powerful people into the team, but that’s sub-optimal. See, the thing about battling for a plane is that it’s all about Worship management. Whoever you send out can’t act normally without a stream of Worship, so you have to make the most out of the time they have there. More powerful people have a higher Worship cost associated with keeping them out, since they’re receiving more of your support to keep them at their normal strength. And, if someone forgets the rules and accidentally kills them, they cost more Worship to retrieve.”
Her face clouded. “It’s important to float people the Worship needed to revive their people if they accidentally die to one of yours. It’s just one of those rules that makes the whole thing tolerable for all of us. However, some people won’t do that, especially if they’re from an opposing faction. They’ll try and weasel out of it in whatever way they can. So, it’s important to take videos of your people fighting and interactions with enemy administrators when at all possible. If someone refuses to give you Worship after one of your people is killed, come talk to me and we’ll work on getting everything disseminated. If the proof is strong enough, the other administrator will be “blacklisted”, which just means that most people won’t refund them any Worship, and a lot of factions will close their doors to them.”
“If you can’t afford the Worship cost, or someone else can’t afford the Worship cost for you, we have a tool that will verify it for both parties; I’ll show you how to use it later.”
“But I’m getting distracted. You need to start thinking about team composition. A lot of people who use demon lords will use the teams of heroes that rise to defeat the demon lord, granting them immortality and sequestering them away once the demon lord is defeated, training them further to work with the other heroes and keep their skills strong. A lot of them will even explain the truth behind demon lords and have them work with the demon lord.”
“But that’s just a suggestion. Personally, I’d suggest making sure all your Perfect Chimeras make it to the field each time regardless of how you set your team up. They’re all big hitters, and, given how closely tied they are to your system, actually won’t be that expensive. From my understanding they already require a hefty one-off sum of Worship to make, so they’re going to be partially fueled by that in other planes. Their stats will probably drain over time if you don’t feed them a stream of worship like you do others, but that’ll fix itself after a bit of rest back on one of your planes.”
“And, honestly, Lilith could potentially be free. She should be able to sustain herself off of her own Worship, but I’m not exactly sure how the logistics will play out, as I haven’t ever seen someone as closely tied to an administrator’s system as she is. So, with that in mind, what are your thoughts on what your team will be like?”
At this point, Lilith’s attention was drawn away from Amy and over to Carmen, who was talking with Tiamat.
“So, it looks like it’ll be a few hours? In that case I think I’m about ready to go home, dear.” Tiamat said, giving Carmen a hug. “Your grandfather wants to stay and train your parents some more, so you should probably prepare one of those guest rooms. He might be here for quite a while.”
Carmen nodded. “I’ll do that after I send you off.”
Tiamat smiled, hugging Carmen. “I’ll probably want to come over every few days, is that alright with you?”
“Of course! Just let us know when you want to, and we’ll come pick you up.” Carmen said, releasing the hug and beginning to draw a circle.
A short time later, Tiamat had left, and Lilith returned her attention to Amy and Kali. They were still deep in conversation, and Lilith would have assumed the two had forgotten about her completely were it not for the fact that Kali had begun to play with Lilith’s hair.
Not sure how to ask if her presence was still necessary, Lilith didn’t, instead choosing to settle in and hope the conversation didn’t go on too much longer.
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i think this time you should definitely have carmen and mae convince lilith to make a new personality. it would make convincing her to make the dungeon core personality easier since there'd be yet another personality telling her it's fine.
Yeah, I'm leaning towards making her a new Parallel myself, but I guess we'll see where it ends up when that becomes important. Probably in a few chapters, not 100% sure.
Finally doing something about the inevitable lifespan difference between Siph, Mike and Jessica. Nice to see it handled and addressed instead of handwaved
Demon Lord Lilith eh? I can see it. I can also see that parallel being just absolutely over the top hammy and bombastic, aiming at a "traditional supervillain/evil demon lord" type persona and Lilith going overboard with it. I wonder if the demon lord parallel would be outwardly intimidating but privately have a big fluffy castle to live in-something like the outside and main halls of the demon lord palace are the expected dark and gloomy place, but her private rooms and the "non-public" areas are all bright pink and pastel colors with fluffy decorations and stuffed animals everywhere with the super secret "vault of treasure" being a tea room stuffed with plush animals. Also stuff like her giant demonic guard dog being growly at strangers but a big puppy to Lilith and her friends/family.
As a bonus if/when there is a demon lord parallel, that could make Lilith more likely to finally see reason and move past her stubbornness about the dungeon core parallel
Having the perfect chimeras be the main team of fighters on other planes seems like a good way forward, though dealing with Winston will be a hurdle you'll have to overcome if you want him as part of the team
That would be pretty hilarious, I must admit.
And yeah, Winston would be the issue for the Perfect Chimeras. Isa's totally into fighting new people and knows how to work in a team, so she's not an issue.
As for the other two...that'd be spoilers ;).
@Fighterman481 Another thought I had about the demon lord parallel would be her being extremely hyper/upbeat in private but having to maintain a serious face in public and maybe having occasional issues with that. She could do silly things like impressions of other people (Like standing like a robot and going "Hi, I'm Mae!" before breaking down in giggles). For some reason I picturing her as something like a little sister to Carmen especially-maybe it's imagining her as being like the sillier, light-hearted side of fae (when in private)? I really look forward to seeing what you do with that parallel if you end up making her real in the story
Right-forgot to add in the original comment-pacing yourself instead of trying to rush out work is probably for the best so you don't end up with something you aren't satisfied with and feel like you have to redo 15x to get it closer to being right
@MarkofWisdom I'm still thinking about what I would want the demon lord Parallel to act like, so we'll see how it turns out. At this point it's looking pretty likely that we'll be seeing one, though, so yay for that! I love introducing more Parallels, because...I don't know I just do, and I feel like there's not a lot of good opportunities to make new ones, and then I have to wrangle Lilith into accepting it and she's not usually very cooperative with that, odd as it may sound coming from the writer. I have to make sure it's a choice that would be made in-character first, so it's a fun little exercise trying to figure that out.
@Fighterman481 On the subject of Demon Lord Lilith, I have a bit of a concern with her Worship gain. When you first had Kali explain how getting Worship from being the High Arbiter of Law and Order, you explicitly stated that she only gains Worship from upholding the law and bringing criminals to justice (applies to everyone else doing that and her benefiting from it) but the catch is that if she's the one who instigates criminal activity (convincing a potential serial killer to go kill people) then she doesn't get Worship from the criminal being brought to Justice. My concern is that the purpose of Demon Lord Lilith is to serve as an instigator to motivate people to get stronger to defeat the Demon Lord, so wouldn't that result in her not getting Worship for people attempting to subjugate the Demon Lord? I think the way you described it is that the Demon Lord System is similar to Higher Beings or Demon Lords themselves are Higher Beings, so would Demon Lord Lilith gain Worship for doing Demon Lord things? Is the whole Demon Lord idea meant to serve as a workaround for the instigation issue as an exemption? Would Lilith need to preside over the Domain of (whatever the Demon Lord represents) for this to work in addition to Law and Order?
Also on the list of Parallels, we currently have:
God's Right Hand Lilith (Lilith)
Faerie Queen Lilith (Carmen)
Mad Scientist Lilith (Mae)
Dungeon Master Lilith (tbd)- Personality suggestion: Overly enthusiastic about her job, seeks to min-max her dungeon to the fullest whilst keeping with the theme and providing a place of comfort for the residents. A bit socially withdrawn, preferring not to be bothered (semi-NEET-ish), tends to be annoyed by invaders. Likely to get along with Mae due to being similar existences. Can be a bit of a megalomaniac from time to time. Prone to taunting invaders with grandiose declarations of their impending "Judgement" and the futility of their actions. A bit chuuni.
Demon Lord Lilith (tbd)- Personality suggestion: The antithesis of Lilith. If Lilith is Law and Order, then the Demon Lord is Anarchy and Chaos. Where Lilith is timid and merciful, the DL is brazen and ruthless. Tends to be haughty and arrogant to an extreme degree and loves to shame and humiliate her adversaries, typically choosing to spare those who are too weak to fight back and provoking them to grow stronger if they seek to redeem their disgrace. Naturally, all of this is a massive front on the DL's side as she desperately seeks to fulfill her role as the Enemy she was meant to be. A deliberate antagonist who claims to let others live as a sign of their weakness, but in truth this is because she doesn't want to harm or kill anyone if she can avoid it and just demeans them to instigate them in a manner befitting the Demon Lord's role. When surrounded by friends and family, she easily gets flustered and keeps trying to put on the Demon Lord act but tends to break down and fail miserably. Think Diablo from How Not to Summon a Demon Lord but epically fails. Prone to being a bit standoffish, snobbish, somewhat tsun-tsun but not excessive.
On another note, I'd just like to spitball some potential ideas for monsters in the Hall of Judgement. As I recall, Lilith's status as a Perfect Chimera gives her access to basically every type of monster. One idea I had was maybe have something similar to the Apostles from Arifureta, but with a special Mode Change ability. For a name, I was thinking something like "Adjudicators" to fit with the theme.
Mode: Balanced- Greyish-Silver hair, grayed-out eyes, grey wings (hybrid Angel-Demon wings, think Satanael from Persona 5 but only one pair), demonic horns, grayish Valkyrie style armor with balanced angel/demon design, twin greatswords (one demon sword that steals magic from the enemy and amplifies Dark magic, one holy sword that amplifies Light magic). Primary method of combat is fighting on the front lines alongside the Mode: Nemesis with their greatswords or serving as mid-range support with magic. Primary magics involve a mixture of Light, Dark, and elemental magic but only using low-mid level spells of any given attribute. Don't have a dedicated role as they are able to support either the Mode: Salvation or Mode: Nemesis fighters as needed.
Mode: Salvation- Hair turns into a Golden-Silver,eyes turn sky blue, wings turn pure white and fully angelic, lose demon horns, armor turns more angelic in design becoming platinum-gold in appearance whilst losing some plating and becoming more closer to an mildly armored Cleric or Priest(ess) garb, weapon style changes to holding a lance in one hand similar to the Beam Lances that the Valkyrians use in Valkyria Chronicles whilst the other wields a Shield similar to Valkyrian Shields. Primary method of combat is focused on Light magic, healing magic, purification magic, and barrier magics. Main role is to serve as defenders/healers but can still fight back.
Mode: Nemesis- Hair turns Gray-Black, eyes turn crimson red, wings become pitch black and fully demonic, retain horns and gain a tail like Lilith, armor becomes more demonic in appearance becoming steel-grey with crimson tones whilst losing some plating and gaining leathery straps (basically Succubus-style with some actual armor in vital areas as well as gauntlets and greaves), weapons style changes to a Scythe-type weapon as a primary whilst also having a whip-sword as a back-up (think either Ivy's sword from Soul Calibur or the Sword of the Creator from FE:3H). Primary method of combat is to rush in close and cleave through the enemy with powerful swings from the scythe or suppressing the enemy with whip-swords, heavily rely on use of Dark magic, curse magic, general debuffing of the enemy whilst also strengthening their personal combat ability. Main role is front line damage dealers who blitz the enemy and try to destroy them quickly.
@DemonLordShadowheart I'll be honest with you, I've been skirting around the name "Adjudicator" for a while, mostly because that's the name of the group in a D&D campaign I'm playing in. I probably should just suck it up and use it since it's on-brand, so thanks for bringing that to my attention :P
Those are some pretty cool monster ideas, too. For some reason I hadn't thought of using the dungeon to basically give Lilith a private army, and that's honestly a huge oversight on my part because that's kind of exactly what it's for. It'll have to wait until she gets the dedicated Dungeon Core Parallel online, though, since she's far too distracted to be thinking about the dungeon at the moment.
As for personalities for the Parallels, I...think I have an idea as to what I'll be going for with the Demon Lord, and honestly...your idea is pretty close to what I was going to go for. Definitely will be using a couple of things from it, though ;)
Re: Worship:
So, thanks for reminding me about this. I honestly didn't think about the demon lord in relation to inciting people to seek justice, but I think it falls under an exception. One, because it's something done by order of Kali herself, and the goal isn't Worship generation, but strengthening the people. Two, the whole demon lord thing is akin to a law of the world itself (if it's set up properly. Kali still has a bit of work to do before it's "official"), so it would count as upholding that law.
But, Kali's going to give her the Demon Lord domain too, so either way she'll be getting Worship from this.
Also, I find it vaguely amusing that the only reference of yours I didn't get was Soul Calibur, and that's probably one of the more mainstream ones on there. I think. I don't keep abreast of fighting games outside of smash bros, so I'm not sure exactly how mainstream it is lol.
@Fighterman481 No problem. Glad you like the monster ideas, I was thinking that in case you needed a way to justify their existence (the Angel and Demon Domains/Racial Classes don't really mesh naturally after all), you could technically make them a Angel-Demon Chimera as their Race.I could see Mae lending her know-how at genetic engineering to the Dungeon Master Lilith for the purposes of their creation, or maybe Kali could rig something. Of course, this is entirely dependent on whether or not you actually decide to use them and you can just ignore this if you don't use them. If you do use them, I also had a fun idea about their "Leader". Since they're sort of like Valkyries, I was thinking the Leader's name could be something like "Brunhylda" which is loosely based on several different variations of Brynhildr and as the Leader, she could have a special ability. Her ability is that she can use the Avatar skill as well as Parallel Processing to at any time create a Mode: Salvation and Mode: Nemesis Avatar piloted by a Parallel with an appropriate personality (Salvation being protective and cheery, Nemesis being bloodthirsty and combative, and Balanced being cold, neutral, and mercilessly efficient (again, kind of like the Apostles)) effectively becoming a one-woman party.
One other thing, since Lilith is the High Arbiter of Law and Order, anyone who has a class related to executing or upholding Law and Order (police, lawyers, pretty sure vigilantes with a Good alignment also count, judges, etc.) instinctively recognize Lilith as the highest authority present in regards to Law and Order, what happens when she gets the Domain of the Demon Lord? Will she be regarded by criminals and Evil alignment people as something like the "big boss" and will they instinctively want to work for her? Will the law enforcement people simultaneously recognize her as the highest authority on Law and Order AND the embodiment of Anarchy and Chaos and how would they react if so? Or since the Demon Lord is technically part of the "Law of the World", would they simply not have an issue with God's Right Hand being the Demon Lord? Would they then regard the Demon Lord as perfectly natural and not care? Also, Righteous Indignation, it procs when people defy the law or defy Lilith, but if people try to fight Demon Lord Lilith in the name of Law and Order, does RI get proc'd or not? Just some things to keep in mind when trying to mesh Law and Order Lilith with Demon Lord Lilith and how her High Arbiter skills will come into play as those skills are ridiculously powerful and whether or not they would actually work in a certain situation such as conflict between her being Law and Order as well as the Demon Lord could potentially be a deciding factor when faced with a powerful opponent.
@DemonLordShadowheart
The instinctive recognizing thing isn't actually a result of Higher Being stuff. It's a result of the High Arbiter Title, which was handcrafted by Kali. the Demon Lord Title, which will be similarly handcrafted, won't contain a similar effect. The idea will be that the Demon Lord Parallel is going to change up her appearance so people won't know that she and Lilith are the same person, and Kali's going to be enforcing that via mind manipulation if need be.
As such, she won't be using any High Arbiter Skills. Sorta a dead giveaway. Righteous Indignation's activation criteria is pretty vague, but here's sort of the way I've been treating it:
It procs whenever someone trips a Geass, or disobeys something Lilith phrased as an order and would be willing to provide punishment if disobeyed. So, it's not going to activate if she asks someone to pick up some eggs and they say no, but if she tells them to stop a conflict and they don't then it would, if that makes sense.
So, she wouldn't seriously expect anyone to listen to her Demon Lord Parallel and wouldn't punish them for disobeying, so it won't activate. Power isn't that important to her being the demon lord, though, since at the end of most serious fights she's expected to lose.
I guess what I'm getting at is that being the demon lord and the High Arbiter isn't really going to be a conflict. If it was going to cause these sort of issues, Kali wouldn't have suggested it. It might sound like a cop-out, and to an extent I guess it is, but it's also the truth. Kali would probably attempt to avoid doing things that would potentially mess Lilith up, even if it would probably be a lot easier for her. She'd rather spend the extra Worship and effort than risk Lilith getting messed up by the dichotomy in a fight and then losing her.
@Fighterman481 Okay, that's fair enough. Just wanted to clear that up, sorry if the walls of text are annoying. I just kinda start typing and when I hit post it just kinda gets out of control. Either way, really looking forward to where the story goes.
@DemonLordShadowheart I know how you feel, I tend to get the same way, so 's all good :P
@Fighterman481 Ok cool, this is the actual last thing (I think). I meant to put this earlier when I was talking about DL Lilith's personality, but I actually had a name suggestion for her. Since we have Lilith who biblically was a demon queen (after telling Adam to piss off) serving as basically God's Enforcer, why not capitalize on the irony and name DL Lilith's personality Eve? I personally feel the opportunity's too good to pass up. Or I guess Evelynn works too, keeps up with the irony and also fits a certain sadistic demoness from somewhere...
@DemonLordShadowheart I'm always happy to get name suggestions.
Mainly because I'm trash with names and they're always the hardest part of writing for me.
And...I rather like that one. I think I might well use it :)
@Fighterman481 If you need help with naming characters, you could try putting it in an author's note/poll or something like that. I've taken an interest in gathering names to use for games and whatnot and have accumulated quite a large list. Random name generators could also help with coming up with names for characters. One I have a fondness of is https://www.fantasynamegenerators.com/ since they have such a massive selective of various name generators types-obvious things like elf, dragon or fantasy human names all the way to completely random things like pet bird names or dance names. It might take a flew rolls on the generator to get one that you like, but it's a pretty decent tool to use to get a bunch of names for different things
@MarkofWisdom Not gonna lie, I've used that site for quite a bit lol. I believe Kirdin's name came from there, actually. Another big tool has been my copy of Xanathar's Guide to Everything, which happens to have a list of names in the back. Think I got Siph from there?
I'll definitely ask in author's notes too, that's a good idea.
@Fighterman481 Ok, I lied, for I have returned once again. I've been messing around with random name generators for the last 20-30 minutes and I think I found a good name for Dungeon Master Lilith. I'm thinking Dahlia would maybe work for her. It's not overly outlandish and Dahlia's meaning in flower language sort of works for her role. "Dahlia flowers are often associated with various meanings that may range from messages of enduring grace to signals of warning. They symbolize elegance, inner strength, creativity, change, and dignity. They are also known to represent one who stands strong in his/her sacred values." I figure the signals of warning fits as people are likely going to invade the Hall of Judgement when it opens to the public and naturally DM Lilith would warn the residents of any threats in the dungeon. Also, since the dungeon's main role is to ultimately help Lilith and co. get stronger, this could be interpreted as cultivating inner strength. Also the DM's job is going to be constantly changing and improving the dungeon, so there's that too. In addition, since basically being the best Dungeon Master/Core she can be is her life's purpose, she would stand strong in her determination to do her best.
@DemonLordShadowheart A good name, that. It'll be in the running for sure, but the establishment of DM Lilith is still at least a few chapters away, so I can't make any guarantees :)
@Fighterman481 If you go with Dahlia and Eve(lynn) Lilith will have parallels with names starting with C, D, E, M, and L (herself). I wonder if you plan on her eventually completing the alphabet like that (epilogue chapter I would guess since it seems like something she may eventually reach in the distant future, but definitely not in story). It could be Kali pointing it out and having a laugh over it, or maybe even suggesting it in story to Lilith as a gag
@MarkofWisdom I didn't even notice that, lol. I'll have to poke fun at it for sure.
@Fighterman481 At this rate, there's gonna be more Lilith variations than Emiya variations from the Fate series. How long till Lilith unlocks her Noble Phantasm: "Unlimited Lilith Works"?
So far we've got:
Lilith (Ruler)
Lilith Alter (Avenger)- Carmen
Lilith (Archer)- Mae