I am waiting for Hina to come to the adventure guild's training field. Since I came here 15 minutes before the meeting time, so there is no sign of Hina coming yet. Then I see a person slowly enter the training field, It's Hina.
-Oh, you already come. Have you waited for me for so long? (Hina)
-No, I just come here, so don't worry. (Farah)
-Hmm, is that so? (Hina)
-......(Farah)
It's hard to start a conversation with Hina since we just met yesterday.
-How about start the class by introducing ourselves? (Hina)
-I'm Hina, a royal mage from Ecrax's country. (Hina)
-I'm Farah, a noble from Acedian. (Farah)
Hina makes a suspicious face when she heard my statement.
-You don't sound like a person from Acedian. (Hina)
-Ehh...(Farah)
Hina ignored me and change the topic:
-Then we already know each other, now let's start the class. (Hina)
-Yes...(Farah)
-Do you know what is magic, Farah? (Hina)
-Is magic create from mana? (Farah)
-Yes, anything else? (Hina)
-...I don't know. (Farah)
-Seem like you don't even know the basic of using magic. (Hina)
-I'm sorry. (Farah)
-No, this is better. A blank page is easier to teach. (Hina)
-Using magic is much difficult than using mechanical equipment. Unlike mechanic users, they just insert the mana inside and let the machine do all the hard work. (Hina)
A mage often needs doing 4 steps before she can cast a spell:
+Relase: Release mana outside of your body.
+Maintain: Maintaining the mana outside of your body and don't let it disappear within the environment around you.
+Convert: Convert your mana into the desired element. (wind, fire, etc)
+Activation: Released the spell. (Hina)
-Any question? (Hina)
-Teacher Hina why some mechanic can't use magic and vice versa? (Farah)
-Good question you have there, Farah. (Hina)
-Because mechanic and mage released a different type of mana. (Hina)
-Ahh...(Farah)
-The mechanic usually releases "positive" energy; this kind of energy can make the machine work. On the other hand, the mage usually releases "negative" energy; this type of energy can't make the machine work. (Hina)
-So why does why magic consider negative energy, Hina? (Farah)
-One of the very reasons as I told you, the energy that magician released can't make the machine work so it considers a negative energy power source. And the other reason. (Hina)
Hina creates 10 flames lance around her.
-We, mages can create anything from thin air. It considers as negative since we take elements from nature and use them to activate the spell. Some people call us sinners because we try copying the way goddesses fight. Some planets even despise magicians to the extreme like people from Acedian. So let me ask again...Who are you? (Hina)
Hina aims those fire lance at me. She looks at me seriously; a lot of bloodlusts are released like yesterday:
-I can't tell you, but I promise I want more power to protect the one dear to me(Farah)
Hina ignores me and starts going closer to me:
-Please listen to me Hina, I'm not lying to you. (Farah)
I closed my eyes and hear the sound of Hina walking closer to me.
-I believe you. (Hina)
As I open my eyes, Hina's face is right in front of me and looks right at my eyes.
-What a crybaby you are! (Hina)
With one flick from Hina's hand, all of the flame lance behind her start to disappear. Hina takes a handkerchief from her bag and gives it to me.
-Use it to wipe your tears. (Hina)
-Thank you. (Farah)
-I know you are not an Acedian. Since there is no way, an Acedian's person wants to learn magic. However, I want to test you a little, to see what kind of person you are. (Hina)
She scratches her head and continues:
-I thought you would at least fight back. I never expect you to cry. (Hina)
-I'm sorry...(Farah)
-It's not your fault. But Farah! (Hina)
-Yes? (Farah)
-Don't follow weird people on the street because they give you candy! (Hina)
-Don't treat me like me a kid! (Farah)
Hina smiles and said:
-Aye, I thought you were a kid. (Hina)
-Mooo... Hina you finally smile. It's your first smile since I meet you. (Farah)
Hina tries touching her face.
-Am I? I'm still too soft on kid. (Hina)
Hina pats my head:
-Now let's start practice, Farah. (Hina)
-Yes, teacher Hina. (Farah)
-Since you are a mechanic, it's easy for you to release the mana. So now try maintaining your mana in the environment. (Hina)
I try following her instructions. I release my mana into the air and try to keep them staying in one place. However, mana keeps go out of control and disappears into the environment.
-The first time is always hard. Farah tries to imagine holding a balloon and keep the mana of yours inside that balloon. (Hina)
This time I will try following Hina's advice, I can keep my mana in the imaginary balloon for 2 minutes, after that the mana keeps flowing out of the balloon and disappear into the thin air.
-That's great work for the second try. Now, Farah let's practice for one hour. (Hina)
After 1 hour, I now can maintain the mana outside for 5 minutes.
-That's all for today. It's very impressive of you to maintain the mana for 5 minutes in the first lesson. (Hina)
-Hgg~ Hah. (Farah)
I'm too tired right now, my mana pool almost dried up. Hina comes closer and gives me a piggyback.
-Get some rest; I will take you to that maid. (Hina)
-Myu~~(Farah)
I slowly let go of my consciousness.
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Hina goes to the front of the adventure guild to see Hana.
-Your master has almost dried up her mana. So please take care of her. (Hina)
Hina hands over Farah on her back to Hana.
-Thanks. (Hana)
When Hana tries to leave, Hina calls her:
-Hey, maid! (Hina)
-Hmm, what are you calling me for cheeky mage? I need to take my master back to the inn. (Hana)
-Why someone strong as you go around and protect a little girl? (Hina)
Hana makes a surprised face.
-Hoh, you noticed my strength? (Hana)
-Of course, even if you try to hide but the enormous mana around you tells other stories. (Hina)
-Tchh, so what do you want? (Hana)
-As I said, I want to know the reason why you are protecting her. (Hina)
-It's none of your business. (Hana)
Hana released her bloodlust and aim at Hina.
-But If you ever think of harming my master, I will crush every single thing dear to you. Then finally, I will crush and destroy you like an ant with my own hand. (Hana)
Hina responds to Hana's bloodlust as nothing:
-My, so scary. But I'm not that kind of teacher. I will never harm my cute student. (Hina)
After finishing talking, Hana walks out of the adventure guild. Due to Hana's bloodlust, many receptionists and adventure have faint. Hina can only scratch her head about this situation:
-Sigh, why do I even meet a monster in this remote village? Hope she won't interfere with my plan. (Hina)
Did Hina have any yuri thoughts while carrying the cute sleeping princess in her arms?
Now that I've stopped to think about it. How old is Farah looking to be from Hina's point of view?
Thanks for the chapter
She looks like a 12-13 child.
At this point, there are no romantic developed yet. But it will happen soon enough at the end of this Arc
@Madeus Now that I've stopped to think about it. What is your personal definition of loli?
My is small body build, cute and short Xd.
@Madeus Currently, my personal definition of loli is a cute, short girl (below 160 cm in general) who appears to be a minor regardless of her real age.
After seeing a certain 145 cm tall loli necromancer vampire who was described as looking 15-16 years old I decided it was best to leave my definition simple to keep her with a wide range. Before, it was much more extensive.
I think I will try to integrate this "small body build" into my definition as well.
What do you think?
I think shorter than 140 much fits into the loli standard of mine.
Girl from my country is around 140-150 cm. So it's hard to think of those higher than 140 as loli
@Madeus I see, you mean shorter than the average height of women in the region.
What country are you from? I'm from Brazil.
I'm from Viet Nam ya.
@Madeus Here in Brazil the average height of women is 162 cm and speaking of height I am 175 cm tall.
And about you?
The average woman's height is 140-160. And I'm 182 cm
@Madeus And what would be the maximum apparent age for a loli in your opinion?
I thinks it 13 for appearance age, inside can be much older is fine
@Madeus In my case before reading Re:Born - Necro I believed that an apparent age of approximately 4-14 was a good number for lolis.
I think so but my Mc is loli with more than 100000 years old, so I see no problem with that
@Madeus Now that I've stopped to think about it. "small body build" also includes the size of the breasts, butt and thighs?
Ye, i regard those builds as not grows up yet.
@Madeus So, in your opinion, would these images below count as loli or not?
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/21058595
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/14214398
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/17068094
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/7320551
Only the 1st i think. Others are like flat and bb :v
@Madeus So, only the succubi sisters of the first are lolis in your opinion, right?
@Madeus This "bb" means what exactly?
Would you consider this image below as loli?
NSFW https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/20694167
Ye i think its a loli
BB means big boobs :v
@Madeus Thanks. When I searched on google they said it was the abbreviation for "baby".
Now that I've stopped to think about it. Would Farah be okay with a scaly girls or would they scare her?
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/7348315
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/23806564
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/7348442
Farah doesn't care much bout the appearance of the one she cares about. Her appearance is the past even worst.
If someone tries to use Farah, the other will settle them. You can see it in a later chapter. I don't want to spoil much but the current arc will last around 20-30 chapters
@Madeus Ok.
@Madeus As long as there is a woman who has a short body then she is a loli
@Reiga Well according to theory, It can also consider true
@Reiga @Madeus Don't forget that a woman also needs to look young enough to appear underage in order to be a loli.
I'll leave my current personal definition of loli below for you to see.
My personal definition of loli - Version 5:
Loli is a small girl who looks very young and cute, regardless of her real age. Lolis range from looking young as a little girl to a short teenager. (Note: Loli is an informal term that is very subjective and is used mainly to refer to fictional characters.)
*Lolis generally meet the following factors:
1-A young and cute face that usually still maintains childlike features to some degree.
2-Skin that is obviously young and without wrinkles (Note: scars don't count).
3-Have a small build that evokes the idea of youth. This varies based on average of race, ethnicity, etc. In the case of human girls which'd be under 160 cm, with rare exception such as in regions where girls to reach 160 cm while early teens is normal. PS: The size of the breasts, butt and thighs can be disregarded since one can be a loli regardless of those.
4-Must be female or futanari at a minimum (no exceptions for traps).
I tried to make this definition, in a way that loli characters with very different body builds like Terminus Est, Shinobu Oshino, Kanna Kamui and Hestia could be counted as lolis without any problems.
So, what did you think of the fifth version of my personal definition of loli?
Did you find any flaws or contradictions?
@Gin0001 thanks for the info
@Reiga You're welcome! After all, talking about lolis is one of my hobbies.
What would your ideal loli look like?
@Gin0001 It's really detail definition and I think it's right since most loli is like that in your definition
@Madeus This is because I spent months gathering opinions from different lolicons, including authors, looking for commonalities between definitions, reworking and tweaking until it was flexible enough to cover all the types of lolis I could remember without contradiction.
@Gin0001
Have you ascended to become the lolicon god though?
@Madeus Unfortunately I am still far from this level, but if I reached it I would lolify myself to be able to follow the yuri path, I would move to a fantasy world, I would try to increase the legal lolis world population and I would try to find a lolicon monster girl to be mine wife, preferably a dragoness.
And about you, what would you do in my place?
@Gin0001
I will develop a drug that can turn the entire world into loli
@Madeus It's a good idea but it seems like it would be too expensive to implement on a global scale. In my opinion, if we can turn half or a third of the world's female population and futanari population into lolis, that would be great.
In my case, I was thinking of a lolication curse that would convert any intelligent being into a loli, cure things like chronic illnesses, terminal illnesses, missing limbs, baldness, etc as a side effect and use that as advertisement to attract candidates. And that the curse was automatically casted on anyone who tried to dispel it by force, without following the predefined procedure.
What do you think of this?
@Gin0001
It may be expensive but it will be great since everyone turns into a sweet and pure loli. No more fight, no more war and everything is filled with sweetness. And it would be interesting since it can also cure every curse and disease. it will make the world even better
Though random half will be futa loli
@Madeus
Oops! I google the translator and I messed up the text myself.
I meant a quarter of the female population would be normal loli, another quarter loli futa, another quarter woman futa, and the last quarter normal woman.
After all, both Loli VS Loli, Onee VS Loli and Onee VS Onee are great!
If you were to be lolified how would you like to be?
@Gin0001
Ah, that's will be a great combination. That kind of world will be hella fun.
A loli futa seems to be great
@Madeus
Certainly
And what kind of girl would you choose to be your lover in such a world?
In my case I would look for a dragon girl preferably and I'm fine with her being loli or oneesan and I'm also ok with her being normal or futa.
@Gin0001
I would choose a loli to love in this world.
Loli is still a justice either loli futa or normal loli
Dragon girl seems to be great. Though I prefer cat girl more
@Madeus nice. A true legal loli she is. Good stuff
@Pieter ahaha, thanks ya
@Madeus i like active authors. Thanks from us
@Pieter If you were isekai'ed what kind of loli would you like to become and conquer as your girlfriend?
@Gin_Otamegane well a little embarrassed to say here but yes i would gladly become a loli and the traits that comes with it and isekai. Well about personality i would still be myself and for sexuality remains the same and i will still simp for lolis. Lolixloli is fine right? Anyway it would be similar to this story in scribble hub " Living as i please, as a lolu demon king" If you haven't you can give it a try.
That aside. You know this sounds like the plot where the mc is isekaid where he/she answers a question like this by someone/god.
@Pieter You do not need to be ashamed. After all, I also find the idea of being isekai'ed as an op loli interesting.
Yup. Loli vs loli is good, but would you want to be a normal loli or a futa loli?
I've also read this novel. But it's a shame that Milla getting the first times of Tenebria and Himeko were never shown in the novel.
You're the second one who tells me that. And unfortunately I'm far from a god to be able to do that.
@Gin_Otamegane yeah ikr. I would prefer normal loli
@Gin_Otamegane take me with you
@Madeus in my country is around the same, since I'm quite tall they look short. Well all are from genetics
@Pieter Well. Sometimes, we are being putted in stereo types because of that