Chapter 101.1 – Scarlet and Anthousai
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she's less disproportionate than i thought she'd be. when you said short girl with large breasts, i thought 4'6" with a G cup. very wrong.
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4'6 is child sized, not just short. Even Aisaka Taiga is 4'7.
Anything over B is reasonably large
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@InLucidReverie Maybe by anime standards but in reality even D cups aren't big at all. You know the old saying "Anime D cups are like real life F cups"? Well it turns out even that is a gross understatement. Anime D cups are more like real life H cups. I always find this mildly irritating because it means I can never really understand an author's description of their character without an illustration no matter what they say because I don't know what system of measurements they're working with.
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https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/69888740
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/78251814
is what Scarlet looks like... when forced to dress up
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Was about to post some stuff about D cups and the UK, but checking the numbers, the average bra size in the US is apparently F.
I...I don't understand...even with the obesity epidemic...
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@InLucidReverie That's actually what makes it even more terrifying. The larger the band, the smaller the equivalent sized cup. Or to be exact, the cup i based on the difference between band and bust. If the band is bigger, the cup becomes smaller, even if the breast volume if the same.
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@Ninetailed_Furball Wow, this comment thread is still going? I've already moved on to something far more disturbing about Scarlet's supposed physique. You see, something's been bugging bugging me ever since we learned that Scarlet has a six pack so I looked into it. If my sources are correct building your muscle to the point where you are considered toned is not enough to develop a six pack. You gotta go all the way to the muscular body type for that. My image of Scarlet has now been completely destroyed. The soft, feminine looking girl in the picture above is a lie! Scarlet is a freaking musclebound Amazon!
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@AnimeFreak1982 not necesarily dude, even if you can see them, if a person is fit enough you will still be able to feel the abs, most models that appear in bikini on movies and what not have six packs and they still don't look like Goku. She still looks normal because her muscles are super dense, like check her stats back on chapter like 6, yeah author-san I am still waiting on an updated stats screen, it's huge, also her body was made using mana, so your normal human logic is pointless on her.
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@Ruiso Are you sure? Having abs and having a six pack aren't necessarily the same thing. It's my understanding that a six pack is composed from a set of very developed, well defined abs. Having something like that on the soft not even toned looking body pictured above would look really unnatural. Like you grafted part of someone else's body on to her's in some Frankensteinian experiment.
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@AnimeFreak1982 Every person have muscles, even if they aren't huge like Goku's they are still there, being fit and being buff are two different thing. The fairies 'felt' her abs, they din't see it. She is fit, the drawing was made simple with not that much details, it was nice though don't get me wrong. Look at gymnast and pole dancers, for example, they have abs of steel, even if you can't see them.
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@Ruiso @AnimeFreak1982 https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwwws.fitnessrepublic.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F08%2Fabs-olympic-gymnasts.jpg&f=1&nofb=1
These three were olympic gold medallists as a gymnast team. They have a visible six pack even though they don't look like some sort of body builders.
Even then, Scarelet isn't nearly as free of fat as they are, so while she can have abs that can be felt even if they can't be easily seen.
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In my case, I was imagining Scarlet 145 cm tall and her bust could be something from C to E, but probably D-cup or DD-cup. Because when I asked Ninetailed_Furball in the past he just told me that Scarlet's height was somewhere between 140 and 150 cm and her breasts just looked big because she had a small figure.
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@Gin0001 Again this is why cup sizes in fiction confuse me. Everyone's got their own idea of how breast sizes work and it almost never comes close to reality. If your imagining Scarlet anywhere near a C you must be going by the anime standard. While just about every fictional story I've read regards C-cups as medium in reality C-cups are small even if they're on a legal loli sized woman like Scarlet. It wouldn't be strange to see C-cups on an actual loli. D-cups, the universal standard for large breasts in anime are actually the real mediums, and they're on the lower end of medium to boot. Given how massive Scarlet is being described as she can't be anything smaller than a G-Cup even with her small build. I've seen a few animes and fictional stories that try to be more realistic with their cup sizes but even they fall short of reality by a significant margin. For comparison's sake let's take Byleth from Fire Emblem as an example. A traditional anime would probably call her a DD. Those trying to be more realistic would most likely label her a G. As for what she would be in reality, well I haven't verified this but I heard that Nintendo gave her a canonical size of I-cup and if that's true than going by her appearance in game she'd be the only fictional character I know of in any media that's ever been given an accurate cup size in her description.
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@AnimeFreak1982 I was told that this is how a B cup looks proportionately in a small, delicate loli 145 cm height.
Spoilerhttps://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/22926693
NSFW https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/22926851
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/21553266
[collapse]So, I think that in anime the D cup looks big because 2D girls tend to have an idealized body build that is considerably smaller and more delicate than IRL's, so their assets look big proportionally speaking, right?
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@AnimeFreak1982 What do you think of the comparison of cup sizes in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB8wlJiC9uw
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@Gin0001 Okay that is a good reference. It even shows how the same cup size appears on girls of various builds and I must admit I underestimated just how much of a factor that could be. The reference I was working off of only had one model and the B-cups on it looked almost as small as Louise from Familiar of Zero. I am a little skeptical of the video's accuracy though. I've seen photographs of women who wear G-cups and they weren't nearly that big. Granted the women in the photo weren't as small as the model in the video but I find it hard to believe a difference in build would make THAT large of a difference. I wish they had shown more than one G-cup model for clarity. I still think C-cup is way too small for Scarlet though.
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@AnimeFreak1982 Yes. It shows us that size is not everything and proportion is also very important.
As I recall, Louise should be an AA-cup, right?
If you want examples of B-cup that look big, I recommend searching for the Russian cosplayer and model Rocksy Light (Alisa Bishop). Originally she was an A-cup, but after putting the implants she became a B-cup. She has a small, skinny build with 152 cm in height that makes her breasts look large proportionally.
I also wanted more variety in model builds like some lolis for example to see how proportionally large these cup sizes can look in 130-150 cm tall lolis. PS: And with the height of each one listed next to the model.
I think the creator did not post other models for the G-cup because the smaller models would seem absurdly disproportionate and the taller ones would be unreally tall.
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@Gin0001 True but the title of the video was How big is the G-cup so they really needed to have at least three different reasonably proportioned models to demonstrate instead of that one loli model that as you correctly pointed out was absurdly disproportionate. By only showing the most extreme example we can't really get an idea of how big the G-cup is and thus the video fails miserably at answering the question it was supposedly made to answer.
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@AnimeFreak1982 Though since it does show G-cups on a loli I guess it does show what Scarlet would look like if she was that size. If the video is accurate than I take back what I said earlier. Maybe she is smaller than a G. Maybe an E? Definitely not a C.
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@AnimeFreak1982 Speaking of E-cup, do you know Danmach's Hestia? If my memory serves, her bust is E-cup.
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@Gin0001 Claret's body is a copy of previous Scarlet's right? I can't remember if her chest has been described in detail but previous Scarlet has been described as extremely attractive though not to the extent of current Scarlet who cheated her way to max beauty with a character creator. So based on my guesswork and taking my lessons in proportions into account, if Scarlet is extra large and Claret is just large than I think they're both E-cups with Claret looking smaller due to her larger build.
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@Gin0001 Speaking of Hestia, both she and Scarlet are both oppai lolis so that may be an excellent comparison to make. Just imagine Hestia with pointy ears, long silver hair and a black cloak in place of that physics defying string outfit.
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@AnimeFreak1982 It makes sense, but I doubt that the previous Scarlet also had the same cup size as the current Scarlet.
Not enough data for now and not to mention that maximizing beauty may also have increased bust, right?
Speaking of lolis, what is your personal definition of loli?
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@Gin0001 It's always been my understanding that a loli is a female that is or in the case of a legal loli just looks like she's in her early teens or younger. As for oppai loli, that would be a girl with the height of a loli but the chest of a voluptuous adult.
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@AnimeFreak1982 This is a simple and practical definition for most cases.
The one I currently use is the one below:
Personal definition of loli - Version 5:
Loli is a small girl who looks very young and cute, regardless of her real age. Lolis range from looking young as a little girl to a short teenager. (Note: Loli is an informal term that is very subjective and is used mainly to refer to fictional characters.)
*Lolis generally meet the following factors:
1-A young and cute face that usually still maintains childlike features to some degree.
2-Skin that is obviously young and without wrinkles (Note: scars don't count).
3-Have a small build that evokes the idea of youth. This varies based on average of race, ethnicity, etc. In the case of human girls which'd be under 160 cm, with rare exception such as in regions where girls to reach 160 cm while early teens is normal. PS: The size of the breasts, butt and thighs can be disregarded since one can be a loli regardless of those.
4-Must be female or futanari at a minimum (no exceptions for traps).
Click to expand...What do you think?
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@Gin0001 That's definitely a more detailed and in depth definition than the one I came up with. I'll take it.
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@AnimeFreak1982 I've been working to perfect it for over a year, after all.
When you say "early teens" do you mean 13-16 years old, right?
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@Gin0001 I was actually thinking 13 or 14. Maybe 15 but that's really pushing it. You can marry at 16 in Japan if you're partner is a legal adult so thinking of a 16 year old as a loli makes me feel deeply uncomfortable.
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@AnimeFreak1982 Me too at the beginning, but since Ninetailed_Furball told me that Scarlet appeared to be 15-16 years old and DarkGodEM told me the same thing about Necro I decided to accept this as a rare exception for smoll girls.
But when you think that there are girls you can't be sure if they are 13 or 16 at first sight, until it makes sense, right?
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@AnimeFreak1982 PS: And with the young and cute face being the deciding factor of the screening.
What do you think?
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@Gin0001 I think this is the the part where I place heavy emphasis on the girl's actual age before I decide what I think. Just imagine, there are two loli looking girls in front of you. Only one of them is legal and you don't know which one it is. You must hit on one of them. There's a team of F.B.I. agents standing six feet away and you have their full attention. Make your decision in 3...2...1
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@AnimeFreak1982 ... I would probably back off and wait for the agents to leave before trying anything and you?
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@AnimeFreak1982 Oops! I forgot to say that the Japanese cup size standards are lower than the American ones, since they have a different build. So for example, what the Japanese consider an E-cup would be roughly equivalent to the Americans' D-cup, from what I heard.
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I ask "Which of you is Kanata and which is Konata" or "Which one of you is dating Kagami?"
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@AnimeFreak1982 If you could, would you lolify yourself so you can hit lolis without worrying about the FBI?
Do you think it would be better if I changed the word "short" in my personal definition of loli to "small"?
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@Gin0001 To clarify your asking if I would lolify myself not shotafy myself correct? Short is fine. Lolis are short after all but they aren't always small.
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@AnimeFreak1982 Yes, I am asking if you would like to be a ladykiller loli. Would you like?
This varies, there are some 13-year-old girls who, despite being 160 cm, have faces and lack of curves enough to be obviously young and considered lolis. Do you know Shiro from Nanomancer?
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@AnimeFreak1982 As for the height, this is very subjective, for example, there is a 180 cm tall author that I follow who only considers girls to be loli if they are below 140 cm.
What do you think of his preferences for lolis?
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@Gin0001 I love Nanomancer! Shiro is one of favorite MCs of all time. I dream of seeing her in Smash. As for your earlier question, I think you're tapping into the secret fantasies and guilty pleasures of everyone who enjoys TG fiction. Is there anyone here reading this story about a guy reborn as a female vampire that can say they haven't thought of themselves in a similar situation even once in their lives? If there is I'm gonna call that person a liar.
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@AnimeFreak1982 Obviously. After all, I myself have tried to imagine myself as a monster girl of many different races.
So, would you consider Shiro to be a loli at the beginning of the novel or is Shiro 160 cm tall too tall for your loli standards, even though Ahrin called her "overpowered loli"?
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@Gin0001 Oh she was definitely a loli at the beginning. A cute overpowered murder loli, AKA the best kind of loli.
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Agh! It's like glitter!! Which as we all know, is the herpes of arts and crafts.
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Feel Scarlet would look a bit like this... if forced to dress up
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/69888740 or
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/78251814
all credit goes to original artist
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That's pretty nice. Though I think that's what she'd look like when she dresses down, not up
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No bow in hair or reach knees I was thinking her face would be lot reder but great job
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welp 5 stars it is...
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/78251814
SCARLET?
@Shirabe How many times are you planning on posting that picture anyways?
Though I admit, it's so close to what I imagined Scarlet as, I can't exactly complain.
@Ninetailed_Furball the peaks look about great but the attire should be more conservative based on the personality and the face should be more refined maybe sharper while keeping her almost childlike stature the people in the story describe her as extremely beautiful without even seeing her full face not just cute as any old anime Loli but he did post a pretty good pic anyways I can see where there is no room for complaints especially if the author says so
@Ninetailed_Furball yeah anyways I was trying to say I like the face in the anonymous pics it gives off the Onesan vibe looking quite young while keeping a rather fine and curvaceous body
@OVER666LORD707 well there was no conservative attire, just imagine it as if she was
@Shirabe i prefer slimmer thigh
@Ninetailed_Furball I pictured her as having an extremely girly face with a natural pout